what would you be zinging president obama? >> i think this is a terrible strategy, actually, for the romney campaign. i think if you look -- if you look at the two periods recently when presidential debates shifted the polls, it was kerry in '04, he gained three or four points on bush after those debates and it was bush against gore in 2000 who gained points mostly because gore was unlikable. in neither case was there a sort of there you go again type zinger and frankly, the idea of mitt romney, mr. phony, delivering some kind of canned zinger, that's exactly the wrong strategy and i suspect this is just misdirection by the romney campaign. >> i love that ross just called mitt romney mr. phony. i'm done. thank you, ross. >> he just zinged you. very interesting. i will leave you to squabble over the "new york times" newsroom floor. thank you very much indeed. >>> tomorrow night, i sit down with arnold schwarzenegger. you watched the "60 minutes" interview but are left with unanswered questions. so was i so i asked them. arnold